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Post by Pandhud on Oct 10, 2007 0:32:40 GMT -5
[whisper=]shut up![/whisper] ahem... anyways, even though his personality would change in 1 day AFTER fate's events started, he is still the same person. you can't change a person's dna strucutre, making him a total badass in 1 day, especially in shirou's case since he is physically defected, not having a magic circuit, until Rin decides to give him one. as seen on day 1, or 2, or maybe 3... on the game, that is...
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Post by Aurica Nestmile on Oct 10, 2007 1:33:40 GMT -5
Well... Without Rin Tosaka... Shiro's nothing... Without Rin Tosaka... Archer will never became servant... Without Rin Tosaka... Sakura's nothing...
Without Rin Tosaka... No Ending for Fate/Stay Night
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Post by {Beware of the Crimson Moon} on Oct 10, 2007 5:18:02 GMT -5
0.0 U guys r just seriously full of crap.... -.- Rin did not give Shirou anything like a magic circuit... U can't give magic circuits to ppl, 'cause that's like giving them u kidney or stomach... Magic circuits are almost like organs.. She gave him something that activates his magic circuits... And btw, this maybe be difficult for u to believe, but Shirou has more magic circuits than a normal mature magus... Shirou has 27, the normal amount a mature magus has is 20, soes Shirou isn't deffective or anything... And he becomes a badass in 4 days -.- God damn it, stop dissing the guy until u freaking read HF.... If u dunn believe me about Shirou's magic circuits check this: web.archive.org/web/20070511031351/http://fuyuki.pbwiki.com/Magic#Circuits
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Post by Eric on Oct 10, 2007 5:28:53 GMT -5
I'm still playing the game and currently watching the Series, and for now, I think his "strengthening" is not useless at all and also his vision to see inside of an object is might be useful for finding the enemies weakness
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Post by {Beware of the Crimson Moon} on Oct 10, 2007 8:22:45 GMT -5
Well... He can only see the inside of objects if he touches them.... Also, I think that tracing is as usefull as hell =)
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Post by Aurica Nestmile on Oct 10, 2007 8:45:30 GMT -5
Well if Rin don't activate it Shiro's still nothing...
No Rin = No Ending... Gilgamesh rules the world if there's no Rin...
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Post by Pandhud on Oct 10, 2007 8:53:50 GMT -5
I'm still playing the game and currently watching the Series ... since you are watching the anime adaptation, maybe you'lll notice Rin tellling shorou to swallow a gem, THAT's the magic circuit that i'm talking about. btw, i've already read the HF scenario since around a year ago, which is a long time. So, from what i can make out of it, is making somebody turn so diffrent just because of 1 event, and the results appearing in 10 days or so, is next to impossible
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Post by {Beware of the Crimson Moon} on Oct 11, 2007 6:01:01 GMT -5
Who's summary did u read? And that ain't a magic circuit, it's a gem to activate them -.-
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Post by Aurica Nestmile on Oct 11, 2007 8:23:49 GMT -5
I believe he reads it from the game...
He can read japanese...
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Post by Pandhud on Oct 13, 2007 3:59:05 GMT -5
even if you're right, without them he barely can activate them, and onlt after that he can begin trecing stuffs
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Post by Aurica Nestmile on Oct 13, 2007 8:24:27 GMT -5
Once again I'd say
Without Rin Tosaka, Shiro can't trace and he can't do anything Without Rin Tosaka, Archer never called Without Rin Tosaka, Sakura don't know any magic since Rin is the one who teach it
In truth, Without Rin Tosaka, No one will stop Kirei Kotomine and Gilgamesh. Except maybe Lancer...
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Post by {Beware of the Crimson Moon} on Oct 13, 2007 14:57:33 GMT -5
OK then.... Hm..... Lets see.... Just to show u how the stuff ur doing doesn't prove anything, I'm gonna use the same method.. Without Shirou, Saber would have been PwNeD by Berserker on their first encounter, meaning Tohsaka would have died too.. Without Shirou ,there would be no Archer.. Without Shirou, Kotomine would have taken the Holy Grail in Fate.. Without Shirou, Sakura would have gone mad.. Without Shirou in HF, Everybody gets PwNeD by the "shadow".. Without Shirou, there would have been no distractions in the first Archer vs Lancer Fight and both Archer and Tohsaka would have died.. Without Shirou, Saber would have been PwNeD by Gilga in the end of Fate.. Without Shirou, there is not only no ending for Fate/Stay Night, but there would be NO F/SN at all, since he's the main character..
And man, I think u should shut up about those "Without Tohsaka...", because every character in F/SN is important.. What ur doing is pointless...
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Post by Aurica Nestmile on Oct 14, 2007 0:13:03 GMT -5
Without Shiro, There still Archer, because Shiro just simply dead. We don't need Shiro Emiya, We just need his spirit after he DEAD...
Without Shiro, No 1st and 3rd Ending, but still 2nd Ending, because in Second, we don't need the guy Shiro Emiya, we just need his spirit AFTER he dies.
THIS prove that Rin Tosaka is far more important than Shiro Emiya...
And in Truth, maybe, the first Ending still there...
Without Shiro, maybe Rin is the one who summon Saber, and if that so, she is FAR stronger than Shiro's summoned Saber, because Rin can give a LOT of mana supply, unlike Shiro who is a bad jerk of meat. And in the beginning of the story, Lancer will probably met Berserker instead of Saber and Rin, because they're nearby. And Lancer may beat Berserker, or maybe beaten. But this is irrelevant, at least Rin or Saber, both are not Dead. So your argument about Rin killed because no Shiro is no longer there. What shiro's doing is just covers his stupidity.
And something for sure, If Saber summoned by Rin, Saber will be overpowered and beat all of other servants without problem.
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Post by {Beware of the Crimson Moon} on Oct 14, 2007 2:33:14 GMT -5
Dude... Tohsaka summons Archer BEFORE Shirou summons Saber, meaning there is no chance in hell of Tohsaka ever summoning Saber... I guess it's fate or Tohsaka just always messing up (u do remember that she summoned Archer, because she messed up, right?)
And also I really don't get the way u think... Dude, no Shirou Emiya = no spirit of Shirou Emiya = no Archer...
No Shirou in Fate = Saber doesn't have Avalon = PwNeD by Gilga.. No Shirou in UBW = Everybody PwNeD by Archer.. No Shirou in HF = Everybody PwNeD by the "Shadow"..
And lastly, do the words "main character of F/SN" mean anything to u? Again, no Shirou = no F/SN..
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Post by Aurica Nestmile on Oct 14, 2007 3:44:58 GMT -5
UBW=Everybody PwNed by Archer, So what? Archer's not that evil... Well, No Shiro maybe the name of the game is Fate/Stay Day, but who cares? It WILL able to have a happy ending, Therefore, Rin is more important than Shiro.
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